Never Loved Elvis

Gigs

Never Loved Elvis Season 1

In this weeks episode The Four Muska-Beers discuss all things Gigs.

Recorded slap bang in the middle of a pandemic, this episode is tinged with poignancy as the buys discuss how things used to be. What makes a good gig, what makes a bad gig - Is it reasonable to go to the bar when Flava Flav breaks into some solo stuff?

But fear not - the sadness is punctured with great joy* as the boys add a final member to their fantasy band - and play another fantastic ** game  of Higher Than the Sun.

Listen to the music discussed in today's episode, and all the previous episodes, on the Never Loved Elvis Spotify playlist.

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6o4QGD5bP4EEZvrfrwHuLO?si=wR47Y-LtSh6vxdt-g7bjOw

A  big thanks, once again, to the wonderful Ross Martin for supplying the music.
https://soundcloud.com/ross-martin-music

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*depending on how you determine joy.
**depending on how you determine fantastic.

Gigs

[00:00:00] Kev: [00:00:00] You burden me with your problems. You'll have to tell no lies. You always ask me it's all about, but don't listen to my replies. Yes. It is time for

[00:00:15] okay. Clowns to the left of me. I have

[00:00:23] Bez: [00:00:23] yes. 

[00:00:24] Kev: [00:00:24] And the joker to the rice now, are we chaps? All right. 

[00:00:32] Bez: [00:00:32] Hey dude. I think he's  

[00:00:36] Kev: [00:00:36] yeah, it's been a short week this week. What has caught your eyes and ears this week? Heats? 

[00:00:44] Pete: [00:00:44] Uh, what's cool. Is this week actually the realization that we are like nearly a year into. This situation with COVID and just the lack of live gigs.

[00:00:55] And I was thinking about it. You play in a band. I play in a band and I was reminiscing on [00:01:00] our last gig that we played and just that feeling. And it was amazing and it was a crowded pub and everyone going for it. And I just think we're, when's that going to happen again? And that's something we did for a hobby and a bit of fun, but.

[00:01:12] Just if you got a feel for all these musicians out there, cause it is really, really 

[00:01:16] Bez: [00:01:16] tough. It wasn't the Christmas gate at the white horse 

[00:01:18] Ian: [00:01:18] was, it was 

[00:01:18] Kev: [00:01:18] a Christmas cake. Yeah. It was a great thing. 

[00:01:23] Pete: [00:01:23] But you look back in that it was 10 months ago, whatever, and it looks like a different time and completely different time.

[00:01:28] There's so much going on in there. You can't do anymore. 

[00:01:30] Kev: [00:01:30] I mean, you do do one after that. Bears with deejaying as well. You had the borderline one, the cooks, the COVID one. 

[00:01:37] Bez: [00:01:37] Just dismiss that pig. 

[00:01:38] Kev: [00:01:38] I know it. He completely disregarded it. I don't know why, because I thought that was the best gig. That best event they did.

[00:01:48] Bez: [00:01:48] cause it was more than just. 

[00:01:50] Kev: [00:01:50] It was more than just a bag. 

[00:01:53] Pete: [00:01:53] You shouldn't have DJ please tonight. Oh, gosh.

[00:02:01] [00:02:00] Bez: [00:02:01] Oh, there was a lot of dropouts cause of COVID. 

[00:02:04] Kev: [00:02:04] Yeah. Save your savings before lock down. The last point out there was, there was no real break in there. 

[00:02:09] Bez: [00:02:09] Yeah. 

[00:02:11] Ian: [00:02:11] Hand sanitizing will ruin a gig. 

[00:02:13] Pete: [00:02:13] Yeah, I think, and this will link to this later. What made that gig? It was a proper gig because we had people falling into the band onto equipment.

[00:02:21] Um, it was very sorry as well. Cause the girl fell into a log burner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

[00:02:27] Bez: [00:02:27] Requesting top load, which was devastating for her. Was she pushed

[00:02:37] Pete: [00:02:37] when are we going to get back to it? Is the, uh, is the point, 

[00:02:41] Kev: [00:02:41] have you guys talked about. In any way, having a band practice online or anything like that, 

[00:02:46] Pete: [00:02:46] it's actually really tough to practice online. And a lot of the gigs you've seen from bands reforming, they actually recorded and they recorded it in sequence and it put it all together at the end.

[00:02:54] It's actually quite hard to play because you get so 

[00:02:57] Bez: [00:02:57] you'll get like, Oh 

[00:02:58] Pete: [00:02:58] yeah, it's really difficult to do. [00:03:00] Yeah. 

[00:03:00] Ian: [00:03:00] You know, we thought about it. Um, we did get together about two or three weeks ago. Quite lucky. We've got quite a large space practice in a victorious house. So we will, I wouldn't, you know, different four corners sort of thing.

[00:03:13] And it was, it was just great to be playing again. 

[00:03:15] Pete: [00:03:15] Yeah. That's the tough bit. And if you've got a big space, but we practice usually in a tiny little studio, you can't really do it. And then. What you're practicing for. Cause he can't go and do any gigs that said we have played to a full house of less than six people.

[00:03:28] So is 

[00:03:31] Ian: [00:03:31] over, 

[00:03:31] Kev: [00:03:31] we're a 

[00:03:32] Pete: [00:03:32] T3. I think we can play to all our fans. 

[00:03:36] Kev: [00:03:36] Um, but just having it yourself, what's grabbed your eyes and ears this 

[00:03:38] Bez: [00:03:38] week. I saw something. Um, it's kind of like the opposite to what are the opposite end of this? You're the local band practicing they're struggling to get by. Did you see this wig that.

[00:03:52] Kanye West,

[00:03:58] isn't it? Yeah. I'll have birthday. Did you see, [00:04:00] what did you see that? Was 

[00:04:04] Ian: [00:04:04] it more close 

[00:04:05] Bez: [00:04:05] now, better than that, it was a message from, uh, it was a message given to, um, the form of a hologram of a dead father. Uh, wishing a happy birthday. It was basically he got on a hologram. Of her dead father, which snap a bad day and pop this speech that the dead father gave was about what a genius

[00:04:36] He's so humble. Isn't it? But like he says, he says, like he must've said like he is a, the most, most, most, most, most, most, most about 15 times genius, biggest genius. You could have a marriage, but I think be like, honey, I must know it was 

[00:04:54] Kev: [00:04:54] a bit tongue in cheek. It wasn't like a vinyl that just got stuck. 

[00:04:57] Bez: [00:04:57] It was like a quick system.

[00:04:58] Watch it. He does. He says it just [00:05:00] over and over and over again. How big a genius. Going to your worst is fantastic. 

[00:05:05] Ian: [00:05:05] Does he ever say any point helped me be one your mind?  

[00:05:10] Bez: [00:05:10] I was thinking like, Oh, I think Kenny is in on it more than we realize possibly. Yeah. 

[00:05:15] Pete: [00:05:15] Well, it's made it into the playlist now, so it's done well there, 

[00:05:18] Kev: [00:05:18] you said T also, uh, or wasn't he in a past tense, still running for us person.

[00:05:24] I think he was still going as an independent candidate. 

[00:05:26] Pete: [00:05:26] That's kind of disappeared a little bit. Hasn't 

[00:05:28] Kev: [00:05:28] it? Maybe next, next time. 20, 24 staff members. Yeah. 

[00:05:32] Ian: [00:05:32] I know we're not, I think he is a genius 

[00:05:34] Bez: [00:05:34] musically. 

[00:05:36] Ian: [00:05:36] Yeah. If we could do really 

[00:05:37] Kev: [00:05:37] rate him, I love some of his stuff. Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:05:40] Pete: [00:05:40] I liked some of his stuff, but 

[00:05:42] Ian: [00:05:42] really what you saw in Paul's really brings in and collaborates with.

[00:05:46] Yeah. Anyway, that's all we're talking about, but 

[00:05:49] Kev: [00:05:49] in itself then one more 

[00:05:52] Ian: [00:05:52] pedestrian. I heard a good song. I would make mine introduce me to band earlier this year and Aussie three peaks called middle kids. [00:06:00] And I saw that they had a new single outs or new to now 

[00:06:04] Kev: [00:06:04] called, 

[00:06:06] Ian: [00:06:06] are you for me? He said, having to look it up, look it up.

[00:06:09] Um, but they've been 

[00:06:11] Bez: [00:06:11] compared to the 

[00:06:11] Ian: [00:06:11] strokes. Um, and a couple of other bands, I get the strokes comparison. I think it's probably a little bit more this kit, a bit more folky. Um, but I really like it really nice stuff and it makes it onto the playlist as a result. So you can just for yourselves, But that was, that was fine.

[00:06:29] The album, middle kids, and the album that I'd heard earlier that early this year was a 2017 album self-titled album. But this is new stuff. Not, not off that obviously, but yeah. Nice stuff. Good. 

[00:06:40] Kev: [00:06:40] Uh, I've just noticed that both, uh, Ian and Peter wearing faded black jeans with a high top great high-tops or Dungeness, am I 

[00:06:50] Ian: [00:06:50] the bad wardrobe on trend?

[00:06:54] What you heard this weekend? 

[00:06:55] Kev: [00:06:55] Well, it wasn't, what I heard is what I saw. I, you guys were chatting last [00:07:00] week about music, documentaries that you both watched. Last night, I watched a documentary little about Bob Marley being in, um, London. It was really, really good documentary on the eye glare. It's a few Fox pups with people that were there at the times, and some, a photographer that was following him around.

[00:07:16] He was a young kid at the time. Some guys who were at the school that Bob Marley went in, played out in Peckham. I think it was lovely documentary. 

[00:07:25] Ian: [00:07:25] We're talking here, we're 

[00:07:25] Kev: [00:07:25] talking 72 through two or 73 through till 1980 when he died. I mean, essentially you had a few hits in Jamaica then came across because it wasn't gonna get anywhere in the world without being based in London, based myself in, in of all places and made a huge career off the back of Island records and then backing in.

[00:07:47] Just a really fascinating insight into how that all happened, how the punk scene kind of became intertwined with him. And he's very untimely death at the age of whatever it was. 30, 36 was even not even that maybe I [00:08:00] can't even remember how old he was. He really wasn't very old at all. Just really good documentary.

[00:08:05] Loved it. Suddenly I, Claire, go and check it out.

[00:08:11] Nope. 

[00:08:11] Bez: [00:08:11] Oh, Molly and 

[00:08:14] Kev: [00:08:14] Molly and me.

[00:08:20] Okay. So it's time to complete clusterfuck, our fancy band, which is currently made up of King Jong and rebel Wilson, Richard mainly. And Gangas calm. So this week it's a free for all. We're allowing each of us to nominate a, any position they want, whether it be a percussionist, a dancer, or a. Keyboard player, uh, whatever a second drummer, uh, another guitarist, whatever it may be.

[00:08:46] It's a free for all. We'll have a quick vote at the end, and that will complete the lineup for the band that I've called clusterfuck open to suggestions on other names for this band. And you can contact us on Twitter at Sam, never left Elvis pod [00:09:00] or on Instagram and never loved Elvis pod or Facebook ads never loved Elvis pod.

[00:09:04] So please feel free for your suggestions then 

[00:09:08] Bez: [00:09:08] email. Oh,

[00:09:14] postal address. 

[00:09:15] Kev: [00:09:15] Yeah, he's never loved Elvis pod@gmail.com. 

[00:09:19] Bez: [00:09:19] Uh, Stephen Hawking keyboards. 

[00:09:22] Kev: [00:09:22] Good.

[00:09:26] Okay.  

[00:09:27] Bez: [00:09:27] right. It doesn't need to move much. A keyboard is generally quite static, so that's fine. We're not going to have problem. He's great with technology. Um, I thought also, maybe 

[00:09:40] Pete: [00:09:40] it's quite honestly from the whole teaching thing as well. Isn't 

[00:09:42] Kev: [00:09:42] it? So, yeah.

[00:09:49] Carry on. Keep digging.

[00:10:00] [00:09:59] Bez: [00:09:59] yeah. I thought, I reckon we could get some good, nice space. If it especially affects, we can knock it off. I don't know. I just think he was good at technology and Stephen Hawkins, Stephen Hawkins on keyboards. 

[00:10:15] Kev: [00:10:15] Okay, great. Uh, I'm not quite sure how you follow up Stephen Hawkins on keyboards, but who have you got?

[00:10:21] I feel 

[00:10:21] Pete: [00:10:21] bad. But I'm not into keyboards, so I don't want keyboards in the band. It's nice for piece rock band. Uh, the problem is even if we did with one keyboards in the band, you know, who's gonna want to play Judy Finnegan. Richard's from man. Judy is going to want to do Linda McCartney stand at the back, play a keyboard.

[00:10:42] Yeah. It's 

[00:10:42] Bez: [00:10:42] funny you say that because I was thinking new Audra as well. Jillian comes out when you join 

[00:10:47] Pete: [00:10:47] division. It's going to be the beginning of the end. 

[00:10:51] Bez: [00:10:51] You're 

[00:10:51] Pete: [00:10:51] not doing it. So yeah. I love it. I dancer in the band is good. A dancer also stroked percussionist. So best is a Wikipedia. [00:11:00] Bez is a percussionist, not just a dancer because he can shake those Miraca is very good, but also it gives the band somewhere else to go.

[00:11:07] Doesn't it. So Keith, from the prodigy, he was just a dancer to start with, ended up as a front man. Didn't he? 

[00:11:12] Kev: [00:11:12] Yeah, 

[00:11:13] Pete: [00:11:13] I'm going for a talented dancer. Lots of spirit. And could be the front man in waiting and not. Made out of the way. Uh, Neil from the in-between is beautiful moves. Great spirit.  skirt. It's got the moves, his knee.

[00:11:29] Kev: [00:11:29] He can, he could dance or percussionists. What are you putting up with? 

[00:11:33] Pete: [00:11:33] He's a dancer with 

[00:11:35] Kev: [00:11:35] percussionists. Okay. So potential learning the ropes. Move on from there. Take a set up Cashin maracas to start with then onto the tambourine. Yep. Then potentially a bit tambourine and singing it at the same time.

[00:11:48] Pete: [00:11:48] Yeah. Okay. Is that, it's a journey for him. It's a journey. A bit of robot dancing. Funny 

[00:11:54] Kev: [00:11:54] boy 

[00:11:55] Pete: [00:11:55] gets himself into some trouble 

[00:11:57] Bez: [00:11:57] scrapes 

[00:11:58] Pete: [00:11:58] scrapes here and there. [00:12:00] Yeah. Or he might just go the best route and just shake some Rackers and it is whatever it is, his fifties or sixties now versus in, and he's. He's managed to maintain a whole career of that.

[00:12:11] And I'm sorry about retinoscopy the other day by him. So yeah, things have calmed down on me. But that now and yep. Just drugs at the weekends 

[00:12:20] Kev: [00:12:20] every second day. Yeah. Yeah. They come down and do a lot of work. Um, it 

[00:12:23] Ian: [00:12:23] was very second hour. 

[00:12:25] Kev: [00:12:25] You know what you were saying? We don't need a keyboard player. I think we do.

[00:12:28] I'm not a big fan of a keyboard player in a band usually, but I'm thinking of some of the patterns that I've loved along the years, Belle and Sebastian. And you want someone like that? A pet shop boys. We mentioned last week, I'm thinking about the kind of moody keyboard player, whether it be in. Uh, and electronic bands.

[00:12:46] So maybe KLF, something like that, you know, there's been some awesome bands or keyboard players in there. You can see, 

[00:12:53] Ian: [00:12:53] I was 

[00:12:53] Kev: [00:12:53] just going to drop it in there. Take it out, please. I would 

[00:12:57] Bez: [00:12:57] obviously went onto erasion. 

[00:13:00] [00:12:59] Kev: [00:12:59] I'm looking at someone moody. Someone who's good on keyboards, someone that is also good and sunglasses.

[00:13:06] Cause, cause that's what you want from a keyboard player. Someone just, just being miserable and cynical. And I'm thinking Chris Tennant from, uh, petrol boys on the whole hair, but I'm Chris Chrysalis.

[00:13:27] Ian: [00:13:27] But 

[00:13:27] Kev: [00:13:27] better than bass did it with one of our listeners. 

[00:13:30] Bez: [00:13:30] Uh, I've got a barrage of tweets. 

[00:13:32] Kev: [00:13:32] I'm thinking someone moody someone great in sunglasses, uh, someone who really didn't give a fuck. I'm thinking bill Hicks would be fantastic. You know,

[00:13:46] just smoldering in the background, just staring at people in the crowd, 

[00:13:49] Ian: [00:13:49] quite the presence though, as well. Yeah. Yeah, 

[00:13:53] Kev: [00:13:53] so bill Hicks. Good shout. Good. Nice. So 

[00:13:57] Ian: [00:13:57] just to keep things, even because we [00:14:00] got two keyboards suggestions, I went the same routes P so thinking about an additional person to find a member of, of, of cluster five, to my mind, I went straight to someone like this.

[00:14:10] Someone who just dances someone, you can't take your eyes off 

[00:14:14] Kev: [00:14:14] base. 

[00:14:15] Ian: [00:14:15] Also seem to know no shame a little bit on the, on that the, in between us. Didn't seem to have a problem with, uh, potentially embarrassing himself. Didn't give a shit. 

[00:14:23] Kev: [00:14:23] Um, but equally can 

[00:14:25] Ian: [00:14:25] continue. I am always off him. So I ended up going full bore up 

[00:14:29] Bez: [00:14:29] on 

[00:14:30] Ian: [00:14:30] the net, or frankly, I was going to say Rackers blood bears, but frankly who cares what borax playing it, because it's not about what he's playing.

[00:14:37] It's about what he's doing. And. I think that would be a splendid side thing to watch. You would forget what the rest of the band were doing. You didn't, you might even forget Gangas gone or rebel Wilson. 

[00:14:48] Kev: [00:14:48] I'm sorry. Complete the lineup. We've got the choice of, let's say this. Stephen 

[00:14:52] Hawking. 

[00:14:53] Bez: [00:14:53] Okay 

[00:14:54] Kev: [00:14:54] on keyboards.

[00:14:55] We've got Neil from the in-betweeners from the in-between is as percussionists [00:15:00] slash dancer, 

[00:15:01] Pete: [00:15:01] but I'm already sold on our app. 

[00:15:02] Kev: [00:15:02] We have bill Hicks as a keyboard player. We have bore at yeah. As 

[00:15:07] Ian: [00:15:07] I'm going to say cast the nets. 

[00:15:09] Kev: [00:15:09] Okay. So let's start with, um, let's start with Stephen Hawkins. All those in favor.

[00:15:16] Say aye. All right. One just one. Okay. Uh, for Neil, from noon between us. No silence, silence. Um, for bill Hicks, say 

[00:15:29] Ian: [00:15:29] aye. 

[00:15:29] Kev: [00:15:29] Aye. Okay. And then we've got, uh, who haven't we voted for?  say folks for that one. Ah, okay. Well you'll have the nets completing the 

[00:15:41] Ian: [00:15:41] barriers. 

[00:15:42] Kev: [00:15:42] It's Kim Jong-un rebel Wilson, Richard, mainly. And Gingiss Kahn.

[00:15:46] That is classified. Okay. But 

[00:15:48] Bez: [00:15:48] you know, in these monkeys, that's the problem, isn't it? 

[00:15:51] Ian: [00:15:51] Yeah. Yeah. It's hard not to imagine him in that thing. 

[00:15:54] Pete: [00:15:54] It's actually got a musky. And you now, have you seen the new bar? 

[00:15:56] Ian: [00:15:56] No 

[00:15:58] Pete: [00:15:58] awkward viewing. I mean, it is [00:16:00] amazing, but I mean, he's got what Kimi now? Uh, Maschine. So I'm asking.

[00:16:05] Like a COVID mosque is when you think you can't go any further with Barbara and the first, the first 10 minutes, I was like crying with laughter. And then I was just feeling really, really awkward. Like 

[00:16:20] Kev: [00:16:20] it's well worth watching. 

[00:16:21] Bez: [00:16:21] It's 

[00:16:22] Pete: [00:16:22] just unbelievable. The, the, you thought the man Keeney can go worse. It's replaced with a mask.

[00:16:28] Ian: [00:16:28] You got to ask for some photos on the website. No, one's bad. 

[00:16:31] Kev: [00:16:31] That's an Emerson. Yeah, that was 

[00:16:32] Pete: [00:16:32] pretty Amazon prime. 

[00:16:35] Kev: [00:16:35] Okay.

[00:16:40] okay. So this week we are talking and this breaks my heart. We're talking about gigs every so often on the, uh, pretty, pretty much on a weekly basis and getting a reminder on, on Facebook of a memory from three years ago, five years ago, seven years ago, uh, various gigs we've been at. None of us went to gig for at least [00:17:00] eight months, I would have thought, what was the last gig you went to Pete?

[00:17:04] Pete: [00:17:04] Last gig I went to was just before lockdown. So Stereophonics at the OT and it was absolutely brilliant. I enjoyed it. Um, yeah, the dome and everything was fine. It felt like, yeah, things are changing, but. Yeah, this is still okay. And within, I think four days later they played their home 

[00:17:24] Kev: [00:17:24] game. 

[00:17:27] Pete: [00:17:27] Yeah. They created the pandemic.

[00:17:29] So just showed how quickly things move, but absolutely brilliant band really, really enjoyed it. And, um, Yeah, it just 

[00:17:36] Kev: [00:17:36] seems a long time ago. It 

[00:17:37] Pete: [00:17:37] seems a long time ago. And I can't imagine being in that environment again in the near future. 

[00:17:41] Kev: [00:17:41] How about you in, 

[00:17:42] Ian: [00:17:42] can you genuinely don't remember? You can't remember?

[00:17:44] I honestly don't remember. I'd have to go and look at the ticket stubs, but I'd I'd imagine. Cause I can't remember it might've been something local, so maybe something in the boiler room Gilford or maybe. Something that the Wedgewood frames, what was yours 

[00:17:57] Kev: [00:17:57] often? There was two. I caught at the [00:18:00] beginning of the year, there was, um, cinematic orchestra was the last one I saw that was in Brixton Academy.

[00:18:05] Lauren and I went and saw them. I had an awesome time. That was late February, I think maybe the last weekend in February. And just before then, it was, I think it was independent music venues week and a sort of BC camp light playing at the boiler room who was, um, it was really good. He was, um, it, wasn't what I was expecting.

[00:18:26] How about you? Best? I was at a 

[00:18:28] Bez: [00:18:28] BC camp. Like 

[00:18:31] Kev: [00:18:31] I thought it was really good. He wasn't what I expected. He was a bit more junk grantees than I thought. I didn't know what I expected. 

[00:18:37] Bez: [00:18:37] No, I didn't know. And, uh, I kept, cause I liked that single of his, that was out at the time. It was a lot more upbeat than the rest of his stuff.

[00:18:43] Kev: [00:18:43] Yeah, it was quite, yeah. Downbeat.

[00:18:50] Bez: [00:18:50] don't beat knows, not listen to a lot of this stuff. I quite like Tam, but quite liked his persona. And he's a 

[00:18:56] Kev: [00:18:56] boxer. 

[00:18:57] Bez: [00:18:57] Yeah. Sort 

[00:18:58] Ian: [00:18:58] of a glimpse though. He's very funny. 

[00:19:00] [00:18:59] Bez: [00:18:59] Yeah. Funny. Yeah. Constantly drinking red wine, maybe even out of a bottle. Was there, you know, what he was doing, he was drinking or 

[00:19:05] Kev: [00:19:05] when you have a better, highest advantage than 

[00:19:08] Bez: [00:19:08] most of us we'll come to that 

[00:19:13] Pete: [00:19:13] in your last game.

[00:19:14] Was it snapped ankles when we went to boiler room? Was that, 

[00:19:16] Kev: [00:19:16] Oh my, I might've been, 

[00:19:17] Pete: [00:19:17] cause that was a good one. Wasn't it 

[00:19:19] Ian: [00:19:19] was good. Yeah, 

[00:19:20] Bez: [00:19:20] that was good. That was good. 

[00:19:22] Ian: [00:19:22] Again, that's another, 

[00:19:23] Kev: [00:19:23] that was this time last year. So again, that one came off as a Facebook or Instagram. Emory. Yeah. One year ago, it could have been sweaty, very swissy that was, 

[00:19:34] Ian: [00:19:34] and also, also quite bonkers.

[00:19:36] So small venues, like 200, 250 people, right. Something like that. 

[00:19:40] Kev: [00:19:40] And with them, which works well when it's at capacity, sometimes. It works really, really well. I went to a gig there last year, which was the wedding person and the wedding person, average person now is probably in their fifties, in the crowd.

[00:19:55] Um, and twice the size that they were when they first got into the wedding person. [00:20:00] And so 250 people of. Uh, that fast. Yeah. The capacity should be reduced 

[00:20:09] Ian: [00:20:09] because, 

[00:20:10] Kev: [00:20:10] because it goes some gigs. Um, and this loads of teenagers there, and you don't realize how small you were, where your teenager lie, that the size of your shoulders, the size of your stomach and stuff like that.

[00:20:21] And these kids were all packed in really tight. And then you, you feel like a giant in there because you're twice their weight or whatever. It was like the wedding person where. You know, you can usually slide between people in the waist of the bar. It wasn't a lot of sliding

[00:20:40] Pete: [00:20:40] It is true, but there are positives as well. I mean, the snap tankers gave was a similar demographic and it was a very soft mosh pit. Wasn't it? It was very, everyone's soft. There's no elbows. There's no skinny 

[00:20:50] Kev: [00:20:50] teenage years. Everyone's 

[00:20:52] Pete: [00:20:52] big, lots of ballast, just bouncing off each other. My sweaty and slippery.

[00:20:56] It was quite. Yeah, it was a mixed bag, 

[00:20:58] Ian: [00:20:58] but I just remember being super [00:21:00] sweaty is an excuse to put them 

[00:21:01] Bez: [00:21:01] on the playlist. It was most 

[00:21:03] Kev: [00:21:03] enjoyable that the flip side of that, though, yes, you get a soft Moss spit, but you, when people go crowd surfing, It's 10 times worse than it was when you were with your kids.

[00:21:12] That used to be the worst thing that you get would be a deer in the head, and we can kind of find you, push them out to be fine. They use days is kind of 10 people under, underneath them all in absolute pain. It's hard to carry these favorites. We saw quite a few with that. Um, one the Indy days when they did in, was it Easington?

[00:21:30] Bez: [00:21:30] No. 

[00:21:32] Kev: [00:21:32] Can you stand catch-up can you stand for, and um, yeah, just the, again, that's such a good day. That day, the lineup was taking straight back to that 1992, 93, but the size of people meant that when people were crowd surfing, it was, everyone was straining. It's keeping people up. Yeah. Do you remember the first 

[00:21:52] Ian: [00:21:52] time you did it?

[00:21:53] Yeah. Do 

[00:21:53] Kev: [00:21:53] you remember the first time you did? What was that? 

[00:21:57] Ian: [00:21:57] One was my first gig. Cause that was at Wembley arena. [00:22:00] I don't know, seating.

[00:22:10] sorry. Already. There was a theater gig. Uh, I think probably 

[00:22:14] Kev: [00:22:14] Hammersmith. Oh, sorry. I think we were playing Lindley. 

[00:22:17] Ian: [00:22:17] No, it was my first crowd surfing thing. It was a lot fun. 

[00:22:21] Kev: [00:22:21] Not fun. 

[00:22:22] Ian: [00:22:22] No. Okay. So 

[00:22:23] Kev: [00:22:23] my first, 

[00:22:24] Bez: [00:22:24] uh, car  to King George's whole Blackburn. Okay. 

[00:22:31] Kev: [00:22:31] That's one way for you from, uh, 

[00:22:34] Bez: [00:22:34] for Barra. Well, yeah, but what happened was, so I was into car and then they didn't really, you didn't really get any gigs in para, do you know where I was?

[00:22:43] So it was, you know, you have to go away and then I was at a record fair. Like I used to buy vinyl, even a record player.

[00:22:54] Kev: [00:22:54] something you did from your 13 years old and for 35 years old,  

[00:23:00] [00:23:00] Bez: [00:23:00] again, 

[00:23:00] Kev: [00:23:00] the record player in between go rid of it. 

[00:23:02] Ian: [00:23:02] Yeah. 

[00:23:04] Bez: [00:23:04] So it was about 15, 16, 15, 16. It was still a scale. And then, um, there was just like a little poster, a little leaflet on the door and the record that say mini boss to car and like. Follow me, or if you want to go on there

[00:23:25] I literally lived just around the corner from me car series called them for them on, we always called them cottage, Dave. Yeah. That ain't calling as many bus. And we went with all these blokes to King George on the button that it was kind of, and many of us got stuck in there and they were trying to get into a mode.

[00:23:41] We started carpark. And he like banged onto the metal bopping thing. Oh, you're fine. Anyway,

[00:23:52] uh, 

[00:23:53] Kev: [00:23:53] no enough about us. Yeah, 

[00:23:54] Bez: [00:23:54] but that's what our first concept as 

[00:23:56] Ian: [00:23:56] well. Was it? Yeah. First gig first 

[00:23:58] Bez: [00:23:58] credit. [00:24:00] Yeah. 

[00:24:00] Kev: [00:24:00] How about you Pete first gig for you 

[00:24:01] Pete: [00:24:01] first proper gig, seeing a band that I'd heard of and were a big name, seeing the, of Plymouth pavilions. 

[00:24:07] Kev: [00:24:07] Okay. Early nineties. So you were uni? 

[00:24:10] Pete: [00:24:10] Yeah. I just got to uni.

[00:24:12] I think I've been at uni for like two weeks and saw they were playing it. Didn't have a ticket. So first experience of heading down there with a bunch of people trying to get tickets on the dogs it's sold out, were in their prime then. And, uh, yeah, got it. And just my mind 

[00:24:25] Kev: [00:24:25] is how did you get a ticket on the door or through a tout 

[00:24:29] Pete: [00:24:29] it's just on the door.

[00:24:30] Someone's selling extras to not out, but yeah, it's the first experience, the touts everywhere and all that. But yeah, I've managed to get tickets of someone with an extra. Straight in on my own. And, uh, yeah, just 

[00:24:40] Kev: [00:24:40] absolutely brilliant down the front and the mosh bit 

[00:24:42] Pete: [00:24:42] straight front in the mosh pit. And it just proved because I've got on my own.

[00:24:45] Cause other people gave up and the rest of it when you're in it, seeing a band, the absolutely love it doesn't matter. Does it every song on you, they played straight at the front, just a magical experience. So, yeah. Brilliant. 

[00:24:56] Kev: [00:24:56] Fantastic. So, yeah. What was the first gig Wembley, [00:25:00] then it was Def Leppard. Okay.

[00:25:01] 1998. 

[00:25:02] Ian: [00:25:02] They were touring his Steria an album, which I'd finished. I have 

[00:25:06] Kev: [00:25:06] a soft spot for actually, who did you go with? 

[00:25:08] Ian: [00:25:08] Uh, I went with my school friend. His dad took us and waited in the car park, like gig was on and lesson took us home. So he just got the hanger.

[00:25:23] Bez: [00:25:23] exactly. 

[00:25:24] Ian: [00:25:24] I was just reading the paper. But it, it was brilliant, you know, it was, I was 14, blew, blew my mind. It was nosebleed seats, you know, rice at the back sort of thing. Um, I remember my mum or dad phoning for tickets and it was quite late in the day. I think I saw it advertised, um, in music shop. Was, it was, um, melody maker was that free with the free paper used to pick up wasn't it.

[00:25:48] So I think that's, I had the toast in there. Yeah. And loved it. Loved it. There was probably a gap of about two years before I went to the next gig. After that. 

[00:25:54] Kev: [00:25:54] Yeah. I was the same as bears. Actually. I was Carter USM 19, 19 two supported [00:26:00] by the Franklin Walters. And, uh, I would, I suddenly I was, was that night in 1914.

[00:26:07] My sister took me along because she was responsible adults. Four or five years old than me, but within seconds of getting in there, I lost her and it was down the front and crowd surfing and all sorts of things. Sneaking a beer here and there. It was, um, it was fantastic. I never looked back from, from then on him.

[00:26:24] Okay. 

[00:26:24] Bez: [00:26:24] Yeah, it was either songs, a pain or family car. 

[00:26:29] Pete: [00:26:29] I think liberals were supported by dreads zone and. 20 years later

[00:26:37] level is on it. 15, 20 times still never seen dreads zone. 

[00:26:43] Ian: [00:26:43] Remember Def Leppard was supported by poison, small hair metal, 

[00:26:48] Kev: [00:26:48] whatever. Um, 

[00:26:51] Ian: [00:26:51] yeah, isn't it 

[00:26:52] Kev: [00:26:52] pec. You've seen them 15 times. I'm I'm kind of, I was always the same with Carter. Asking that first gig never leaves it. Does it that, that [00:27:00] the bars have seen that band for the first time?

[00:27:02] Um, that first love as it were, um, you never kind of forget that. So, um, 

[00:27:08] Bez: [00:27:08] I remember watching the embed 

[00:27:10] Kev: [00:27:10] video. Yeah. 

[00:27:13] Bez: [00:27:13] Yeah. It was just like, I was just like, I want to do that. I want to go there. And that's why, like, that's why I wanted to go to Brixton Academy. It took me ages to get to Bristol Academy. The only reason why it was a goal was because of that video.

[00:27:27] I just want it to go to the venue. Yeah, 

[00:27:29] Kev: [00:27:29] no, no, no, but that's it, that's the fair point in the certain 

[00:27:31] Ian: [00:27:31] places beside venues

[00:27:39] Kev: [00:27:39] but what, what is it about gigs that makes a crack and gig? Is it the venue? Is it the, seeing the band just before they've made a massive, is it seeing the band whilst they are on the absolute crest of a wave 

[00:27:51] Ian: [00:27:51] size of the venue? For me? Yes. It's like, yeah. When I'm not a great fan of stadium gigs or that we obviously we've done a few haven't we, [00:28:00] but, um, I like the victimy Brixton academies, just, they managed them and it's just a balance, you know, smallish feeling, feeling, feeling intimate with 

[00:28:11] Kev: [00:28:11] a decent 

[00:28:11] Pete: [00:28:11] capacity.

[00:28:13] Yeah. I to say, I think seeing a band that you absolutely love. So, you know, I mean, knowing every song, when you see a band is amazing, see a new stuff's good, but no, every song in a venue, we can actually see that band. And I think the key thing is like that they're loving it and that interaction with you when you get that interaction is magic.

[00:28:30] Kev: [00:28:30] Yeah. So, so how about a front man who just stands there? Doesn't interact with the crowd at all, but plays the hairs. Where, where would that sit on the scale of a good gig? 

[00:28:39] Pete: [00:28:39] Get me the klaxon for mentioning the AU band, but as a classic one, and there was a band in the nineties,

[00:28:51] much, the love, love the band live. Everybody did anything from exits walk up, play the songs. 

[00:28:57] Kev: [00:28:57] So, so w we have one like that. That's one of my [00:29:00] favorite. Certainly my top 10 albums of all time, spiritualized, ladies and gentlemen floating in space. I went to saw them again. We're not talking about festivals, but, um, when it's sort of a festival with my wife, took her along to see them.

[00:29:11] I've seen them 15, 20 years prior, loved them, went and saw them. And, uh, Jason Pierce was literally just stood there, playing guitar and singing, no interaction at all. No movement. And within about 10 minutes, a wife who could take them a leaf. And to be yet, to be honest, just when should we go see someone else?

[00:29:31] God didn't want you to say that we want you to go. This is amazing, but there was nothing for her other than. Just in playing the tunes that you already knew. So the whole 

[00:29:41] Pete: [00:29:41] point is you're there for a show on here. You want to see the whole experience? I know controversial one, but like Coldplay, I was never into Coldplay until I saw them live.

[00:29:49] And you see Coldplay like that. Absolutely amazing. And the reason they're amazing is that crowd interaction, they don't really care about being there. They appreciate it, Chris Martin, whether you love him or not. I think he's really good. I think he [00:30:00] absolutely makes the show and sells the music to you.

[00:30:02] And that's the idea of a gig is to sell the music to you. That's 

[00:30:05] what 

[00:30:06] Ian: [00:30:06] they do. Flipping that round seem cheap. Retro chili peppers twice first was I think they were headlining reading. So somewhere probably ran about 91 92, somebody correct me or tell me, but they were absolutely brilliant. Absolutely brilliant playing.

[00:30:20] There is some way down and lasting memory of that was just through the years afterwards. Just lots of such energy, just great band touring, blood sugar, sex magic. Then saw them at Earl's court doing stadium Arcadia, one stadium Arcadian tour. You experienced a very similar thing with, Katie's just very, very static at the front.

[00:30:40] It was terrible game play, played all the hits were there. It just felt like a very static experience. The opposite sort of thing, just like saying 

[00:30:47] Kev: [00:30:47] was that jumped for Shanti had 

[00:30:49] Pete: [00:30:49] left chili peppers at that point. Cause I think they had a band that they Ahmed they're really organic. They're really real.

[00:30:55] Yeah. But they've had periods where they're just going through the motions, playing the hits 

[00:30:58] Ian: [00:30:58] and that's, it was bad on [00:31:00] them. They come across like that in all of their videos and uh, cause they get it. I don't remember about Shanta. 

[00:31:06] Pete: [00:31:06] Yeah. Yeah. Cause he's back now. Isn't it that night. And I think there'll be touring again.

[00:31:10] Well, if anyone can tour again and I think they should be really exciting and back and forth, if you can see some, see them somewhere a bit smaller. Cause I think they'd see them at Brixton or something like that, 

[00:31:19] Kev: [00:31:19] but 

[00:31:21] Pete: [00:31:21] they're not really for a stage. Yeah. There are dance, dance, upbeat. Get into it bad. 

[00:31:26] Kev: [00:31:26] So yeah, I mean the, the ones that I've been most disappointed, one gigs I've been to tend to be the ones that have really high expectations of, so a bit like when you go to a festival and you go either wanted just going to see these guys, I haven't seen them before.

[00:31:39] I've loved them for years and you're going to see them and it's kind of fine, but your expectation levels so high, they need to reach that kind of level. The one that I kind of think about. When I think about most disappointed gigs was in the national who had only a couple of days and a couple of their albums and loved them.

[00:31:56] Went and saw them live in, um, we were [00:32:00] ally Pally into Ali Pally with you, me and Hayden. And, um, I'm expecting so much, the sound was pretty dreadful. Um, and I couldn't, I couldn't differentiate between any of the songs. It was just kind of sounded it did mess. And I don't know whether it was because I had such high expectations or whether it was just a poor gig.

[00:32:18] You guys seem to love it. Um, before I turned around 

[00:32:21] Ian: [00:32:21] to say, Oh, I like this one or something 

[00:32:23] Bez: [00:32:23] like the end. You've got 

[00:32:25] Ian: [00:32:25] the bummer thing. You've gone 

[00:32:26] Kev: [00:32:26] to the bar psycho. I expect it so much. And some of the flip side of that is some of the gigs that I've enjoyed most, the ones that are, I didn't know much about people.

[00:32:36] And you walk in and you listen to someone and you see a front man for the person. I mean, fucking hell. He's awesome. But he's holding the crowd. This is something special. Even if you don't know any of the songs sometimes. Um, is it, it's a fine balance again, it's true. 

[00:32:48] Pete: [00:32:48] You mentioned important point there as well.

[00:32:50] Sound quality that can actually make or break a game. And I saw U2 at Twickenham stadium and it just, the sound was awful. And you hear [00:33:00] lots of stories about tweaking. It been a bad venue. I don't want to talk about venues, but yeah,

[00:33:09] Yeah, many of the times, and I've really, really enjoyed them, but the sound quality was so bad. It just ruined it. 

[00:33:14] Ian: [00:33:14] And I think that'd be good. 

[00:33:16] Kev: [00:33:16] Yeah. So what else you were into gig? Oh, the sound quality. 

[00:33:20] Bez: [00:33:20] Well, you know, a lot of this kind of, one of my worst bombs experiences, and it's kind of linked it into what was being said before about the front line and this, and I don't have a lot of time for this for a month, but this particular gig.

[00:33:34] It was just a nightmare. It was charlatans. Okay. Uh, it was Delamere forest. So it was now a gig and it was, it was charlatans gig in telomeres forest, as it rains? No, that the rain we've had recently, it just been like hammering, like totally hollering it down in the middle of this forest. 

[00:33:51] Kev: [00:33:51] Someone checking the bucket 

[00:33:55] Bez: [00:33:55] and the range went down and that isn't, that isn't the Charlotte spot, you know, I'm not [00:34:00] blaming the Charlotte and sort of bud have a ball.

[00:34:02] I kind of expected him to say, well, you log in what?

[00:34:09] the t-shirts well, at this stage, it's just, there was no reference to like the, what we were going through. Yeah.

[00:34:18] then on top of that, there wasn't enough trains to get home with us. Looking at forest. The whole thing was just a nightmare. And we would just talk and say, like, it mentioned it, they didn't even mention we were getting wet.

[00:34:33] Kev: [00:34:33] probably more to do with the trains and the whole situation rather than the gig itself. Yeah.

[00:34:41] absolutely soaked to the skin. Fess was a part of the tourist vessel when that was. Okay. Cosmic weather. And I can't even remember who was saying shed seven and Libertines. Um, we, I mean, absolutely to wrench or nonstop, 

[00:34:58] Pete: [00:34:58] but why was it so good? [00:35:00] Because she had seven came up and he was brilliant. Wasn't he, he just spoke to the crowd.

[00:35:03] He's self-deprecating he was like giving it those, the nineties chat, and then we were expecting Libertines to be. Yeah, average or a complete mess. And again, 

[00:35:14] Kev: [00:35:14] there's 

[00:35:15] Pete: [00:35:15] two bits to be there. They did an amazing gig didn't 

[00:35:17] Kev: [00:35:17] they really interacted with. I'm not sure it was a weather. Maybe it was the band. Maybe it was the train, the weather, 

[00:35:25] Bez: [00:35:25] it was a disaster, but yeah, it was just one thing that sticks to my mind.

[00:35:29] One thing we were talking about afterwards, he was like, it ain't funny. I like it just didn't ever even so. You know, it didn't address the situation. Just like, listen guys, thank you for comment. I know this is like shit weather. Yeah. Well, we appreciate it. That is all the 

[00:35:43] Kev: [00:35:43] ones that would have made it a good gig.

[00:35:46] Bez: [00:35:46] Well, it wouldn't have made it, but I would have made it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah. Okay. What makes a good gig is the crowd? I think the audience, so, you know, you could [00:36:00] go your favorite part, but the audience, I knew it. That it's very hard. 

[00:36:04] Kev: [00:36:04] I'm excited. See some of those ones. So with all of you guys, whether it be seeing the levelers or populates itself or whoever it is in, and I've gone to seen one of the lovely things is a lot of these kind of reunion gigs, whatever it is is when you are jumping away.

[00:36:21] I've lost one of you guys and you look around and this guy stood next to you, smiling the grin from ear to ear singing every single word and you to almost have like a big hug jumping up and down to the songs. It's something about the absolute love of band that you've had for 20, 25 years that you'd go and see those bands.

[00:36:39] And 

[00:36:40] Pete: [00:36:40] yeah, no, you're right. You're, you're a team in the audience, your comradery, and that you think sometimes you, you ever seen, uh, Uh, a gig, a corporate gig where someone big plays, but actually the people are into they're just into taking the box at someone famous or whatever. Everyone sits in their seats.

[00:36:55] It's really soul destroying. And as a performer, it must be awful. And there's nothing more amazing [00:37:00] than seeing a bunch of people that really want to be there that saved up for their tickets. And, you know, Got a long distance to get there or whatever. Yeah. That way  

[00:37:10] Ian: [00:37:10] don't you, you spoke my pie. 

[00:37:11] Bez: [00:37:11] I don't care.

[00:37:17] Kev: [00:37:17] the things that Bruin gigs for me is, um, sometimes talking at gigs. 

[00:37:22] Ian: [00:37:22] No me, 

[00:37:23] Bez: [00:37:23] no, no, I wouldn't never experienced 

[00:37:24] Kev: [00:37:24] it.

[00:37:31] Actually, I wasn't referencing one gig in particular because

[00:37:37] Pete probably thought it was a completely different one, but when you're you're at a cake and the people next to you, especially when it goes quiet, the band are playing a quiet song and there's some people at the bar laughing and all that kind of thing. She doesn't hate 

[00:37:52] Bez: [00:37:52] him. How dare they have fun? Yeah.

[00:37:55] They enjoyed themselves at the bar. I thought it was annoying. 

[00:37:58] Pete: [00:37:58] Cause they're standing up. [00:38:00] It doesn't matter. They're standing in a bar, they can talk over it. Like it's background music, but there's a performer. If you were sitting in your chair, you and like talk loud 

[00:38:08] Ian: [00:38:08] when he said an acoustic song, slow it right down.

[00:38:12] People often take that moment. Don't they to have a chat. But the other, the other opportunity is if you get like a filler song, you know, like some of those, like 

[00:38:19] Kev: [00:38:19] not 

[00:38:19] Ian: [00:38:19] here, or it's just something that maybe like you wanted the true fans or no one that's not on the hit album or latest stuff. That one

[00:38:34] Kev: [00:38:34] good stuff. 

[00:38:35] Bez: [00:38:35] What about, less than see if this is all right. So when I went to see a public enemy right there, um, it Manchester and it was in the old Boddingtons brewery. We started doing like, sort of like raves type things in that. Um, one of the first nights was in fact, the opening night was the Friday, but then I was suddenly do this pre night and it was public enemy.

[00:38:55] I remember it was like, I've got tickets for public enemies. We went to public enemy. [00:39:00] And it was great. I love the sound was a bit bouncy cause it was in there only to sign out. But then in the middle of the set to play the flavor, flavor, flavor to some of his solo stuff he does about like, which did, did, you know, flavor flavor anyway.

[00:39:15] So he does about like three songs and the place just sort of

[00:39:21] Kev: [00:39:21] everyone, everyone goes to the bar

[00:39:28] Bez: [00:39:28] And then you think, well, you know, you're not going to tell them to shut you up, trying to listen

[00:39:36] Pete: [00:39:36] acceptable. Yeah, acceptable, not acceptable. Being in the center of a small venue, watching acoustic artists play over a hushed crowd of loyal fans and hearing about, uh, earliest school runs, uh, stuff that was going on annoyances of the evening and then realizing, 

[00:39:56] Kev: [00:39:56] yeah, 

[00:39:57] Pete: [00:39:57] that was, uh, that was awkward for him.

[00:40:00] [00:39:59] That 

[00:40:00] Bez: [00:40:00] was awkward. 

[00:40:02] Kev: [00:40:02] Gosh, we really need to wrap this up. We've been, uh, it's easy to talk about gigs for. Pretty much 

[00:40:07] Ian: [00:40:07] the whole, 

[00:40:08] Bez: [00:40:08] but do another gateway, 

[00:40:10] Kev: [00:40:10] but 

[00:40:10] Ian: [00:40:10] mean, 

[00:40:11] Kev: [00:40:11] have you guys, um, boots up any tickets? Um, in the meantime, whilst we've been locked down with it since, uh, February, March time, we're now in November, 2020, if you booked up any effort for next year, 

[00:40:24] Ian: [00:40:24] I'm still getting over, not being able to see massive attack at all points East, which I was really looking forward to and we will have tickets for that to me, but, uh, Um, yeah, I haven't booked anything else.

[00:40:36] Okay. That's yeah, because, Oh, I haven't, I haven't got one. I've got foals. Ooh. Okay. In may next year. Yeah. 

[00:40:42] Kev: [00:40:42] Brixton, Olympia, Olympia. Okay. Yeah. Nice. Will they 

[00:40:47] Pete: [00:40:47] happen? That's the question. 

[00:40:48] Ian: [00:40:48] That's the thing we spoke for maybe this year. And they, it was their call to shift on exactly one year, which I think is a smart move.

[00:40:54] Pete: [00:40:54] And we'll roll it out over on there. 

[00:40:56] Ian: [00:40:56] But honestly, you know, you've got a question Avenue. 

[00:40:59] Kev: [00:40:59] Are they the [00:41:00] only ones who bought in lockdown had been so far have been ones where it's been buy the album, get the free ticket through the record shop. I think it was, um, pie and mash in South sea. Uh, I got the idols album and it was coming to see them live, uh, best.

[00:41:16] And I got it. Tickets to that one. Yeah. 

[00:41:19] Bez: [00:41:19] You to something isn't it. 

[00:41:20] Kev: [00:41:20] Yeah, maybe I've got, I've got one for Fontane CC up in Kingston, uh, this month, which obviously isn't gonna happen now, but I haven't felt competent enough to go and buy tickets for any gigs or tours next year. 

[00:41:34] Bez: [00:41:34] Aye. That stops uncle's 

[00:41:37] Kev: [00:41:37] house next year.

[00:41:39] Bez: [00:41:39] Next year

[00:41:46] and it looks just the way they're advertised. I think it's going to be a.

[00:41:53] Kev: [00:41:53] We're going to salmon Henrik

[00:41:58] guys. I think we need [00:42:00] to wrap that up there, but we could talk for another half hour, five hours where it gigs to be honest, but, uh, we need to knock that on the head because it is time for higher than this one.

[00:42:13] The way that we left this last week, I think, uh, Do you want last 

[00:42:17] Bez: [00:42:17] week?

[00:42:23] Kev: [00:42:23] w we'd left it in the middle of the enemy singles of the year, 1994. Now you've all got three likes on this one. Um, there's only a few left that we're going to go through. And then we're going to move on to one other topic, but let's get this moving on quickly because we're running tight to the time today.

[00:42:41] So basically one last week, let's start with, uh, we had Beastie boys. Sabotage is, uh, the winner last week, which was number 10. And yet the enemy single of the year, 1994 in very high salt, see their phenomenal achievements at higher or lower than basically, or sabotage. It was Larry Kevin [00:43:00] number 19. Can you guys get your fingers up, please?

[00:43:05] um, okay. 

[00:43:08] Ian: [00:43:08] Uh, 

[00:43:09] Kev: [00:43:09] okay. So P we got a wasted supersonic. Was that higher or lower than for Rica salty, either which came in number 19, 

[00:43:16] Pete: [00:43:16] it's gotta be higher. 

[00:43:17] Kev: [00:43:17] It's gotta be his course. It's gotta be higher. We came in number 13, uh, bears, probably a fairly easy one for you is a gawky psychotic monkey. Uh, with matched, 

[00:43:29] Bez: [00:43:29] um, 

[00:43:31] Kev: [00:43:31] they come in like, um, um, about a completely forgot about that fucking loved at the time cookies.

[00:43:38] So I got it. Monkey easy for me to say, uh, number 48, Ian orbital impact USA was at higher or lower than Gorkys 

[00:43:46] Ian: [00:43:46] 48. You said? 

[00:43:47] Bez: [00:43:47] Yep. I've got to go higher. 

[00:43:49] Kev: [00:43:49] Was how I came in. Number 39. Uh, Pete Supergrass cook with fire is high or low than orbital impact. USA 

[00:43:58] Pete: [00:43:58] lower 

[00:44:00] [00:44:00] Kev: [00:44:00] Pete loses a life, came in number seven, really good song.

[00:44:06] Pete: [00:44:06] Good song. But I didn't think it was on there with the best of them. 

[00:44:09] Kev: [00:44:09] We've got 'em. Wow. Okay. For bears, we've got elastic hair connection. Was that higher or lower than seven? 

[00:44:15] Ian: [00:44:15] That was a good cheer. 

[00:44:17] Bez: [00:44:17] The Elastica were a bit darling. They, 

[00:44:19] Ian: [00:44:19] yeah, they were 

[00:44:19] Bez: [00:44:19] everyone loved them. Yeah. I'd love to hire. 

[00:44:25] Kev: [00:44:25] It was hard.

[00:44:26] It was number four, number four. Okay. So, uh, going from number four here, and we've got Warren G regulates. Now, let, let take you back to the last time. Let's not take you back to 1994. Let's take you back to last week. When Wakefield came in, number 15 and shampoo at number 23 to try warranty regulate come home or lower than Elastica collection a connection.

[00:44:51] Well, it's going to have some 

[00:44:52] Ian: [00:44:52] faith in humanity here and go lower 

[00:44:55] Kev: [00:44:55] was lower. I fucking love that tune as well. It was number 22. Okay. And [00:45:00] then finally, for singles of the year, we've got, Pete was promised scream, jailbird higher or lower than Warren G regulates 

[00:45:08] Pete: [00:45:08] gotta be 

[00:45:09] Kev: [00:45:09] higher. It was lower. It was number 28 that two weeks ago, failing.

[00:45:14] So peaks loss 

[00:45:15] Bez: [00:45:15] still got one life. Peace 

[00:45:17] Kev: [00:45:17] lost two lives then. Okay. So bears 

[00:45:21] Bez: [00:45:21] the middle thing again. 

[00:45:22] Kev: [00:45:22] We've run out of singles from 1994 enemy top 50. We're now moving on to. The XFM top 1000 songs of all time. So 1000 now 

[00:45:35] Pete: [00:45:35] to the Oasis to a thousand

[00:45:40] Kev: [00:45:40] I have this book with me. It is a beefy book, as you can say, um, this was collated in 2010. So just to put it in context, it's it's 10 years old. It's vintage these days as the kids would call it. Yeah. What I want to know is, um, I'm going to give you a list of bands and you need to tell me whether they have higher or lower than the [00:46:00] band before number of songs in the top 1000.

[00:46:02] So for example, the first one I would say was of that top 1000 songs, the one that's staff had one song, Pete Bon Jovi, did they have higher or lower? The one song 

[00:46:14] Pete: [00:46:14] I 

[00:46:14] Kev: [00:46:14] have. Peaks out. Okay. Zero, zero in the top 

[00:46:19] Bez: [00:46:19] 1000. It a trick question.

[00:46:31] so that is the most annoying. It's the fact that

[00:46:36] Pete: [00:46:36] might be a couple of like ironic entries, but they didn't accept them. There should be in there just genuinely 

[00:46:41] Kev: [00:46:41] to be fair. You'll hear some of the other ones that you go fuck is

[00:46:47] Pixies. Did they have. Higher or lower 

[00:46:51] Bez: [00:46:51] zero. I would say 

[00:46:52] Kev: [00:46:52] higher. You'll be right on that 

[00:46:54] Ian: [00:46:54] one. Okay. Brian, 

[00:46:56] Kev: [00:46:56] and then we'd have keenly, did they have higher? Sorry. Pixies [00:47:00] had five songs. Uh, Dekine have higher or lower than five lower, lower. They had four. Good. Okay. How many likes do you mean? You said you saw three bears.

[00:47:13] Keene had four. Did Lou Reed have. I'll learn. That's tricky. Top 1000 songs of all time. It was Lou Reed best thinking. 

[00:47:21] Bez: [00:47:21] Well, I mean,

[00:47:26] let it go. 

[00:47:28] Kev: [00:47:28] 0.4% of the whole overall list yet. 

[00:47:31] Bez: [00:47:31] Wow. I'm going to say higher, but then. You know, I'm thinking of Velvel independence as well. Maybe 

[00:47:39] Kev: [00:47:39] kind of separate from the 

[00:47:40] Bez: [00:47:40] Belmont. Yeah. But I would say higher, 

[00:47:42] Kev: [00:47:42] they had a, we had three in there. So look keen better than Lou Reed, according to the XFM, 2010, um, Lou Reed had three.

[00:47:52] What about Weezer in, did they have higher or lower than Lou Reed? Uh, sorry. Yeah. Then Lou Reed higher. [00:48:00] They did. They had five in there. We had a five or something to Bon Jovi peak. Sure.

[00:48:08] Uh, best. How about inspire carpet? So we had five, did Inspiral carpets have higher or lower, lower? They did. They only had four in there.  uh, how about iron maiden in higher or lower than inspire our carpets with four lower lower that came in with one. They came in with one of 

[00:48:28] Ian: [00:48:28] the tricks, zero. 

[00:48:30] Kev: [00:48:30] Um, based how about dodgy?

[00:48:32] Did they have a higher or lower than one

[00:48:37] Bez: [00:48:37] 16? Well, 

[00:48:41] Kev: [00:48:41] 2010 XFM, top 1000 sums of all time higher or lower than one.

[00:48:50] Bez: [00:48:50] This could be a zero credit, but it's not gonna be the same. Is it? 

[00:48:56] Kev: [00:48:56] A competency hire that came in with two [00:49:00] to a dodgy came in to, uh, Ian, how about the Crips, um, Doherty with two cribs. Were they higher or lower? Higher? They were higher with three. You guys are doing well here. Okay. So 

[00:49:14] Ian: [00:49:14] what do you mean to say dragging this out 

[00:49:16] Kev: [00:49:16] chemical brothers?

[00:49:17] I said, can we create that three chemical brothers? Three. Yeah. Higher, higher with five of course. Ian, how about RPM higher or lower than five higher? 14. Yeah. 14. 

[00:49:31] Ian: [00:49:31] That when your wife's this higher peak,

[00:49:37] Kev: [00:49:37] well, okay. I'll give you Ari. I'm going to give you the Smith space where they higher or lower than REM REM had 14 in the top 1000 songs of all time. 

[00:49:48] Bez: [00:49:48] I'm going to say slightly lower. 

[00:49:51] Kev: [00:49:51] You saying slightly low was. Slightly lower. It was 12 as well. Okay. So take you back 2010. This [00:50:00] is when this book was compiled in the cook.

[00:50:03] Kooks was they, were they high? 

[00:50:09] Bez: [00:50:09] It's gotta be lower. 

[00:50:10] Ian: [00:50:10] The kids haven't done 

[00:50:10] Bez: [00:50:10] 12 songs out there. 

[00:50:12] Kev: [00:50:12] It was too. It was too, uh, gimme on that one. Um, bears. How about James? Hi. Hi then to you. I can, yeah. For goods. I mean, and you might been right when you said dragging himself,  

[00:50:29] Bez: [00:50:29] them wrong. 

[00:50:30] Kev: [00:50:30] Okay. So James had four hits.

[00:50:32] How about snow patrol? James had four hits. Snow patrol are their higher and lower. 

[00:50:37] Ian: [00:50:37] I'll go 

[00:50:38] Kev: [00:50:38] higher. They were higher than James. How the fuck did that?

[00:50:45] No, it was the same as a Lou Reed, iron maiden. Chemical brothers put together. Okay. So, um, my hundred, this one Beatles space higher or lower than snow patrol, 

[00:51:00] [00:50:59] Bez: [00:50:59] little bit combo higher. 

[00:51:03] Kev: [00:51:03] Of course they were 14 plumbing. He didn't have 

[00:51:08] Ian: [00:51:08] Avalar higher. 

[00:51:11] Kev: [00:51:11] They were high with 18 battle of the bands here and without wanting to set off the clacks 

[00:51:17] Bez: [00:51:17] off for God's sake, uh, um, 

[00:51:22] Kev: [00:51:22] Oh, we were lower than 18 lower base loses a life.

[00:51:28] Is that you out 

[00:51:29] Bez: [00:51:29] at one 

[00:51:32] Kev: [00:51:32] 2020? How about Bowery in? Are they higher or lower than a racist higher? It loses a life. Barely had 14. How about you to bears? Uh, we've got Bowery with 14. How about you two with 15 

[00:51:50] Ian: [00:51:50] scraping 

[00:51:51] Bez: [00:51:51] in that didn't want them to  

[00:51:55] Kev: [00:51:55] in zoo times next low, lower than 15, of 

[00:52:00] [00:51:59] Ian: [00:51:59] course. 

[00:52:00] Kev: [00:52:00] Three, um, 

[00:52:02] Ian: [00:52:02] bears.

[00:52:03] Kev: [00:52:03] Yeah, Metallica higher or lower than the zoo Tom's with her. 

[00:52:07] Bez: [00:52:07] Well, I'm going to say here, given iron maiden, obviously every rock is Bon Jovi.

[00:52:17] I'm going to say lower, 

[00:52:19] Kev: [00:52:19] lower with two happy Mondays, even higher, higher with six goods. Went back to the heavy rock, their bays, guns and roses, Lara lower than six with happy Mondays you're out guns and roses wins it free. And which is what he's been waiting for? Seven, seven, seven. Admittedly two of those were covers, but, uh, they got voted in seven of their songs in that top 1000.

[00:52:45] So that was, uh, this is a low and that feels inappropriate.

[00:52:53] Bez: [00:52:53] yeah, 

[00:52:56] Kev: [00:52:56] it feels like this is

[00:53:01] [00:53:00] Ian: [00:53:01] Um, we've, uh, we've thoroughly 

[00:53:03] Kev: [00:53:03] enjoyed listening to this. We've we've added. Who did we add to the band? It seems long time ago, 

[00:53:08] Ian: [00:53:08] or we added, bore out. 

[00:53:09] Kev: [00:53:09] We added  to clusterfuck. We talked all things gigs. Um, we've had a fantastic time. Thank you very much for joining us. Um, I've been Kevin, I've been Pete. I've been bears.

[00:53:20] I've been in and this is, we never loved it. Yeah. [00:56:00] [00:55:00] [00:54:00] .

 

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